Q: if a cop asks the passenger for id and psngr states its in the back of the van in a black jacket and cops asks to grab

A: Based on the information provided, it seems the police officer may have conducted an illegal search. Here are a few key points to consider:

1. Passengers in a vehicle are not required to provide identification unless the officer has a reasonable suspicion that the passenger has committed a crime.

2. If the passenger voluntarily told the officer where their ID was located (in the back of the van in a black jacket), and the officer asked for permission to retrieve it, the passenger's consent would allow the officer to search that specific area for the ID.

3. However, if the officer searched the front seat of the vehicle instead of the consented area (the back of the van where the black jacket was located), the search might be considered illegal because it exceeded the scope of the given consent.

4. Any evidence found during an illegal search may be inadmissible in court under the "exclusionary rule," which is designed to deter unlawful police conduct.

It's important to note that the specific details and circumstances of the situation would need to be examined more closely to determine the legality of the search definitively. Factors such as the officer's reason for the initial stop, any probable cause developed during the encounter, and the exact wording of the consent given by the passenger would all play a role in determining the constitutionality of the search.

If the passenger believes their rights were violated, they should consult with a criminal defense attorney to discuss their case and potential options for challenging the search and any evidence obtained as a result.